An unmentioned dark side of NIL

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An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by SectionBAggie » March 27th, 2024, 12:32 pm

As we raised our family, we occasionally crossed paths with parents who (for kids as young as 6 years old) were adamant that they needed to push those kids for the financial benefit of a college scholarship.

With the reality that there is more money in NIL than there is in (most) college scholarships I really have to wonder what degree some parents are going to be pushing their kids so that they can tap in.



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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by ViAggie » March 27th, 2024, 12:35 pm

SectionBAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:32 pm
As we raised our family, we occasionally crossed paths with parents who (for kids as young as 6 years old) were adamant that they needed to push those kids for the financial benefit of a college scholarship.

With the reality that there is more money in NIL than there is in (most) college scholarships I really have to wonder what degree some parents are going to be pushing their kids so that they can tap in.
Just look at the percentage of kids who get a full-ride D1FBS scholarship offer; it's not very common. And now there are only really 4 Power Conferences. The chances of Little Jimmy getting a full ride at a P4 with big-time NIL $$ is extremely unlikely.


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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by MrBiggle » March 27th, 2024, 12:36 pm

I can see that start to change.
IMO if we are going to be paying these "students" over 100k per year to play, then the University should use that scholarship for someone that needs it more.
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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by aggies22 » March 27th, 2024, 12:47 pm

ViAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:35 pm
SectionBAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:32 pm
As we raised our family, we occasionally crossed paths with parents who (for kids as young as 6 years old) were adamant that they needed to push those kids for the financial benefit of a college scholarship.

With the reality that there is more money in NIL than there is in (most) college scholarships I really have to wonder what degree some parents are going to be pushing their kids so that they can tap in.
Just look at the percentage of kids who get a full-ride D1FBS scholarship offer; it's not very common. And now there are only really 4 Power Conferences. The chances of Little Jimmy getting a full ride at a P4 with big-time NIL $$ is extremely unlikely.
I know of at least one starter for a fellow Mountain West hoops program that is making 100 grand. The players at UNLV all get cars AND money.



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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by kofdog » March 27th, 2024, 12:49 pm

Slippery Slope doesn't really begin to describe what is happening to colleges with all this. I mean it's one of main reasons Nick Sabin retired.



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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 27th, 2024, 12:50 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:47 pm
ViAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:35 pm
SectionBAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:32 pm
As we raised our family, we occasionally crossed paths with parents who (for kids as young as 6 years old) were adamant that they needed to push those kids for the financial benefit of a college scholarship.

With the reality that there is more money in NIL than there is in (most) college scholarships I really have to wonder what degree some parents are going to be pushing their kids so that they can tap in.
Just look at the percentage of kids who get a full-ride D1FBS scholarship offer; it's not very common. And now there are only really 4 Power Conferences. The chances of Little Jimmy getting a full ride at a P4 with big-time NIL $$ is extremely unlikely.
I know of at least one starter for a fellow Mountain West hoops program that is making 100 grand. The players at UNLV all get cars AND money.
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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by Yossarian » March 27th, 2024, 12:50 pm

From a high school coach that I know - the NIL money is filtering down to the high school level. If you thought parents of high school athletes were out of control before, wait until there is NIL money on the line for little Johnny and his spot on a team or amount of playing time.


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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by AggiePT » March 27th, 2024, 12:51 pm

MrBiggle wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:36 pm
I can see that start to change.
IMO if we are going to be paying these "students" over 100k per year to play, then they University should use that scholarship for someone that needs it more.
I honestly wonder how these "student athletes" are able to finish a degree at all. I would love to see what the transcripts for some of these kids who go to 4-5 different colleges on athletic scholarships even looks like. Transferring credits is usually difficult.
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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 27th, 2024, 12:53 pm

AggiePT wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:51 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:36 pm
I can see that start to change.
IMO if we are going to be paying these "students" over 100k per year to play, then they University should use that scholarship for someone that needs it more.
I honestly wonder how these "student athletes" are able to finish a degree at all. I would love to see what the transcripts for some of these kids who go to 4-5 different colleges on athletic scholarships even looks like. Transferring credits is usually difficult.
Most universities require the final 60 credits or something like that to be completed at their school for a degree.


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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by trevordude » March 27th, 2024, 12:55 pm

Yossarian wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:50 pm
From a high school coach that I know - the NIL money is filtering down to the high school level. If you thought parents of high school athletes were out of control before, wait until there is NIL money on the line for little Johnny and his spot on a team or amount of playing time.
The amount of money parents pay these days for teams, training, and showcases is silly. No way there is a net ROI.

Similar with NIL, no way there is a net ROI .

There will be select players, and select schools, that benefit.

I don't think it'll be the top spenders or the no-spenders.

Any parents on here feel like they are getting bang-for-their- buck? I know some baseball parents who have kids that play in Vegas, Arizona, all over Utah, and they're getting offers to USU-East, or half scholarships to UNLV, or Colorado community colleges.
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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by SectionBAggie » March 27th, 2024, 12:56 pm

AggiePT wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:51 pm
Transferring credits is usually difficult.
USU was my third school. (Evidence that the teen-age mind can be unstable.) Not a single credit from the first two was used for my degree evaluation. Transferring credits is indeed HARD.



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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by Aggie84025 » March 27th, 2024, 1:06 pm

Yossarian wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:50 pm
From a high school coach that I know - the NIL money is filtering down to the high school level. If you thought parents of high school athletes were out of control before, wait until there is NIL money on the line for little Johnny and his spot on a team or amount of playing time.
As if parents were not crazy enough this will just make it worse.
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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by aggies22 » March 27th, 2024, 1:08 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:50 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:47 pm
ViAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:35 pm
SectionBAggie wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:32 pm
As we raised our family, we occasionally crossed paths with parents who (for kids as young as 6 years old) were adamant that they needed to push those kids for the financial benefit of a college scholarship.

With the reality that there is more money in NIL than there is in (most) college scholarships I really have to wonder what degree some parents are going to be pushing their kids so that they can tap in.
Just look at the percentage of kids who get a full-ride D1FBS scholarship offer; it's not very common. And now there are only really 4 Power Conferences. The chances of Little Jimmy getting a full ride at a P4 with big-time NIL $$ is extremely unlikely.
I know of at least one starter for a fellow Mountain West hoops program that is making 100 grand. The players at UNLV all get cars AND money.
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Re: An unmentioned dark side of NIL

Post by FeartheFro » March 27th, 2024, 1:57 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
Yossarian wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 12:50 pm
From a high school coach that I know - the NIL money is filtering down to the high school level. If you thought parents of high school athletes were out of control before, wait until there is NIL money on the line for little Johnny and his spot on a team or amount of playing time.
As if parents were not crazy enough this will just make it worse.
It starts before this. Bryce Harper was being flown in and out of baseball tournaments by teams when he was 12. I’m sure he was getting some type of compensation.


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